LilChamp replied

295 weeks ago

Hello everyone,,
My friends and I got Destiny 2(on PC) together about a week ago. I didn't really expect to be as into it as I have been and I jumped leagues ahead of them at this point. I have been able to grind to roughly 274 but I'm stalling out with out being able to do Night Fall, Trials of the Nine, and the Raid. I'm looking for a group that I can actually do the end game content with, we also made a clan with just the 3 of us so if it's possible it be cool to get a few more members english news capread.

jadenfrancis replied

281 weeks ago

So I'll admit, Heinlein is the first of the big three I've read thus far. My sci fi readings mostly began with the likes of Vonnegut and Dick. Both these writers seemed to be making socially progressive works even when living during "troubled", eg: racist, sexist times. In "Sirens of Titan"(1959), Vonnegut has a black character who is arguably the novels greatest empath.

While I doubt any Dick novel would pass the Bechdal Test. he did feature characters who were equal to the men in the stories, sometimes even smarter in a femme fatal fashion.

"Stranger in a Strange Land" however, is completely mired by characters who consistently say such offensive things that it threatens to undermine the novels message. Jubal in particular is a character who I've wanted to punch in the face so many times I've lost count, and it's sickening because Heinlen clearly loves Jubal very much and casts him in this heroic fashion, completely oblivious to what a terrible person Jubal is at his core.

I find it very hard to buy into the novels themes when the actual showing outside of the telling features men treating women badly, and moreover, the author writing the women as if they are all hysterical, irrational stereotypes.

I've heard this novel receive such praise my entire life, but am surprised I've never heard about its very clear dark side.

I am about 60% into the novel now and the developments with Michael and kissing are just making me face palm even more.

Anybody else run into this problem? Do you think I've just joined the ranks of people who want to ban Mark Twain books for containing the "N Word"? Did you notice the sexism but just dismissed it like a racist old Grandpa who is otherwise a nice guy?
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